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bush white house calls the nra exactly what it is. a protection racket, a protection racket for republicans. he will join me. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative about saving on your policy when you get married, move into a new house... [crash!] or add a car to your policy. don't forget to ask about saving up to 10% when you combine your auto and home insurance with liberty mutual. security, coverage, and savings. all the things humans need to m
bush white house calls the nra exactly what it is. a protection racket, a protection racket for republicans. he will join me. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. humans -- sometimes life...
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the nra gave him an "f" on his most recent report card. those two grades tell you a lot about the state of today's gun control debate. now after the mass murder of children at sandy hook elementary school the president is doing something different. he is taking a louder stand the that might endear him to at least one side of the debate. and next month he plans to introduce a gun control agenda and highlight it during the state of the union. meanwhile, california senator dianne feinstein's planning to introduce a bill had a would ban assault weapons as expected. conservative groups are already taking aim at it. on the drudge report, for example, one headline reads civil war senate to go for handguns. now, we were just talking about conservative rhetoric on a different civil war earlier. let's put war aside. let's put the militant language aside and let's talk about what is happening here, maggie. as you know, people follow this debate remember the original assault weapons ban which was itself considered very cosmetic. it was essentially at
the nra gave him an "f" on his most recent report card. those two grades tell you a lot about the state of today's gun control debate. now after the mass murder of children at sandy hook elementary school the president is doing something different. he is taking a louder stand the that might endear him to at least one side of the debate. and next month he plans to introduce a gun control agenda and highlight it during the state of the union. meanwhile, california senator dianne...
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various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but this statement actually was different. "the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." the nra's planning to hold a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday, december 21st. a major news conference planned for tomorrow in response to that mass shooting. as far as we can tell, the nra has never reacted to a mass shooting in the way that they are very proudly promoting this news conference for tomorrow. they've certainly never said anything like they said in this statement about being prepared to offer meaningful contributions
various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but...
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we have big following in florida with the nra i can see that. looking at their website you know, and everyone looks at florida as far as concealed weapon permits i think it has tripled over the last few years. i know the nra has over four million members. people want to bear arms. i upt stand that. people want to have concealed weapons now. when i say it is a problem not just the state of florida. i see that as a problem states are operating as individual countries. when you go to europe, you know, the size is around the same but you see each state size is a country in europe. we are operating like a country. each state if colorado wants marijuana then they get it. if florida wants to have guns. was i was growing up i noticed that the federal government stepped in more. the lawmakers were accountable. if you went too mar far in your state the federal government slapped you back a little bit. when president obama came into arizona he got a stern talking to. and he's a chief of the country and he has a finger in his face. we have to have the respe
we have big following in florida with the nra i can see that. looking at their website you know, and everyone looks at florida as far as concealed weapon permits i think it has tripled over the last few years. i know the nra has over four million members. people want to bear arms. i upt stand that. people want to have concealed weapons now. when i say it is a problem not just the state of florida. i see that as a problem states are operating as individual countries. when you go to europe, you...
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the republicans are owned by the nra. and the democrats are literally intimidated into submission, and no one seems to care that guns are unrestricted. >> eliot: john, you have laid out both just now and in many of your articles reasons smart moderate proposals that you would think gun owners such as you could agree to. and one of the political questions consequently that mystifies me is why does the nra have such a monopoly of power when it comes to the gun issue. if you look at the polling data, most americans support a background check. and most americans are with you supporting the reasoned efforts to prevent guns from falling into the hands of the wrong people. why is the republican congress and frankly i shouldn't say it that way. why are so many afraid to raise their voice on this issue. why is there such so cowardice on this issue. >> money. a big wall street equity firm are buying up gun companies. wall street hates regulation and the only product in america not regulated is the real begun. toy guns and teddy bea
the republicans are owned by the nra. and the democrats are literally intimidated into submission, and no one seems to care that guns are unrestricted. >> eliot: john, you have laid out both just now and in many of your articles reasons smart moderate proposals that you would think gun owners such as you could agree to. and one of the political questions consequently that mystifies me is why does the nra have such a monopoly of power when it comes to the gun issue. if you look at the...
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the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful. >> also in washington, washington anchor for "bbc world news america" katty kay. >> no pieces, sorry. >> you'll write one next time. thank you. so we've got a lot to get to this morning. >> a lot to talk about today. >> those exceptions, what are you talking about? >> just in the conversation about everything you thought there were two exceptions. >> rick perry, governor of texas, and -- >> is it bob -- >> they said we need to -- we need to arm teachers. >> we have to think about it. >> somebody in the school with a gun. >> guns in school. that's great. you know w
the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful....
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host: we have had two references on the nra and gun control. this is from "the washington post" this morning -- up about essethe outlines some e problems facing our society -- he outlines some of the problems facing our society than they do you support any of these new laws. guest: it is too soon to be looking at those types of issues. what happened in connecticut is outrageous. it is horrible. all of us are just very saddened. we all need to pray for the whole nation. what happened there not only affected the people in the state of connecticut but all americans. host: should somebody who is clearly unstable have access to these high-powered rifles? guest: i do not all the facts about what happened there about guns. we should not be talking about gun control. we need to let the country start healing and then looking at what the real root causes of this horrible murder was all about. host: what are those root causes? guest: i don't know and it obviously he was mentally unstable. it has been reported that what made him snap was that his mom was g
host: we have had two references on the nra and gun control. this is from "the washington post" this morning -- up about essethe outlines some e problems facing our society -- he outlines some of the problems facing our society than they do you support any of these new laws. guest: it is too soon to be looking at those types of issues. what happened in connecticut is outrageous. it is horrible. all of us are just very saddened. we all need to pray for the whole nation. what happened...
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massive public pressure, the republicans are going to continue to the enablers of violence, namely the nra, which simply represents the gun manufacturers, which are really the merchants of death, to use a phrase from an earlier era. >> congressman jerry nadler of new york, thank you so much for being on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> now to what congress will do the rest of this week, including the cliff negotiations. i'm joined by jonathan weissman of the new york times, great reporter, my colleague on the hill, thank you so much for being here. back to the cliff and guns on nadler, sherman was here saying there is some talk amongst leadership, but i keep beating this like a drum, doesn't seem to be any urgency on capitol hill. >> i was talking to some senators this morning, when are you going to get back into town? oh, you know, maybe tomorrow night we'll kind of come in. president obama will be coming in tomorrow night. doesn't seem the level of urgency that you would think, given that in five, six days these things are going to hit. and i think it's because they reall
massive public pressure, the republicans are going to continue to the enablers of violence, namely the nra, which simply represents the gun manufacturers, which are really the merchants of death, to use a phrase from an earlier era. >> congressman jerry nadler of new york, thank you so much for being on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> now to what congress will do the rest of this week, including the cliff negotiations. i'm joined by jonathan weissman of the...
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what was the nra in the 1950s? where you learned how to shoot a target. >> do you remember, i'm sure you do, at the start of the first gulf war, millions of americans sat around and watched, on tv, a video game, in ee feffect, of w being conducted in the middle east. startling pictures. general schwartz corkoff get up we have the video games on the ground, that may have been the psyche of too many americans that war, assault weapons is a video game. that is certainly what we have going on today. if you see the advertisements for some of these video games you were speaking to yesterday. there was no concept of the reality of what a gunshot looks like on a human being. >> there is no concept of the actual noise of gunfire or the damage that a glock or certainly a bushmaster or assault weapon can do because you have a video game mentality. >> by the way, a lot of the people that are reflexively supporting the right of people to have semi-automatic weapons, they have no idea. they just have no idea. it's reflexive. eno
what was the nra in the 1950s? where you learned how to shoot a target. >> do you remember, i'm sure you do, at the start of the first gulf war, millions of americans sat around and watched, on tv, a video game, in ee feffect, of w being conducted in the middle east. startling pictures. general schwartz corkoff get up we have the video games on the ground, that may have been the psyche of too many americans that war, assault weapons is a video game. that is certainly what we have going on...
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the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> can you voice reaction to these protests? what is your reaction? >> rather than face -- >> stick to the script? >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action and all but guarantee the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms machine guns. they claim these civilians semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceable, lawful people will protect us, where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self sacrificing as
the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now! ban assault weapons now! nra, ban assault weapons now! >> can you voice reaction to these protests? what is your reaction? >> rather than face -- >> stick to the script? >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that...
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the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claims the civilian automatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most popular calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they are talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self- sacrificing as those teachers were in those classrooms and
the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is...
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the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back at 2008 and the court decision at that time regarding washington, d.c.'s gun control law, how might that decision come into play if at all. >> it's going to in some way. in a very narrow sense what the supreme court decision stands for is a very important thing. for the first time in american history the supreme court defined the second amendment. it said it does apply to an individual right to own a gun but it stands only for the constitutional right to possess a handgun in the home for self-defense. it doesn't say anything a
the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back...
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from the nra said in his call to action from yesterday. take a listen to this. >> i call on congress today to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> lynn, you wrote about his speech during that news conference and you call his performance, you were very clear in saying, quote, it was cringe worthy. basically saying he was tone deaf. what were you expecting here? >> well, i expected that they said that they would have a meaningful suggestion to come forth on friday and even if you take seriously and no, you know, there's no -- nothing wrong with discussing if schools need beefed-up security and knowing that there's such a debate over the fiscal cliff did wayne lapierre think that with the few days left in congress they could get a report that no one would know what it would cost? it's mind-boggling. so i think if you're going to suggest something, if you want to be taken se
from the nra said in his call to action from yesterday. take a listen to this. >> i call on congress today to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> lynn, you wrote about his speech during that news conference and you call his performance, you were very clear in saying, quote, it was cringe worthy. basically saying...
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. >> the nra breaking its silence. the powerful gun lobby will hold a major news conference to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just wonder -- this long after a mass killing like that, little 6 and 7-year-olds, there is not a single republican in america, in elected office, not going to step up and say something? >> i think that says something in itself. >> i think it is time to talk, guys. one way or the other, where do you stand on this issue? >> joining me this morning is connecticut congressman joe courtney. good to have you here. the president is speaking in 45 minutes from now to announce this new interagency task force on gun control. he's not expected to announce an
. >> the nra breaking its silence. the powerful gun lobby will hold a major news conference to announce the actions it plans to take in the wake of the elementary school tragedy. the national rifle association breaking that silence for the first time yesterday saying it was prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the gun rights organization and gun rights advocates in congress both under public pressure to join the call for action. >> just...
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the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition, people magazine that has the faces of all those kids on the cover. as time goes on, parents will write a book about their experience. we come to know more about their children. it's not going to go away. it touched such a nerve with people, they are against something that is very different from the past where they could die down and go back to business as usual. i think this is something that touches on every parent's worst nightmare. it's not going to go away. with the strategy, the game is different now. >> i want to reiterate that wayne lapi
the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition,...
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it's time to stop being afraid of the nra. time to stop changing the subject when guns are brought up. you, democratic politicians, can run on common sense gun restrictions, and you can win. for the first time in decades, there is now a political price to be paid for gun extremism, and i have got an idea for your first commercial. did you happen to see wayne lapierre on "meet the press"? that does it for us on "the cycle." karen finney is in the chair for martin bashir and it is all yours. >> thanks, krystal. good afternoon. i'm karen finney in for martin bashir on this thursday, december 27th. the president is back in washington, the senate is working against the clock, and speaker boehner, yeah, he's m.i.a. >> no new negotiations are scheduled. >> congress has five days to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. >> they're calling it the fiscal cliff. [ speaking foreign language ] >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> let's take
it's time to stop being afraid of the nra. time to stop changing the subject when guns are brought up. you, democratic politicians, can run on common sense gun restrictions, and you can win. for the first time in decades, there is now a political price to be paid for gun extremism, and i have got an idea for your first commercial. did you happen to see wayne lapierre on "meet the press"? that does it for us on "the cycle." karen finney is in the chair for martin bashir and...
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here's a question about the nra. the nra becomes this behemoth in individuals. i wonder how much that helps the nra themselves. if almost everybody is complicit in saying the nra wants you no know they're powerful. is there a self-fulfilling prophesy about the power of the nra? >> well, in my opinion, there is. if you actually look at the courts across this country where you have a number of lawyers that take pro bono, going into court, fighting things that are nra, going in on local issues, we're winning on that side. that never gets sent to the paper. >> right. >> so, again, you know, it's this myth out there. when the supreme court came out and said a person had a right to own a gun, i'm saying to myself, okay, that issue is off the table now. you have a right to own a gun. if you look at any literature that the nra puts out or any e-mails that they put out. what does it say? they're coming to take your guns away. so you have people that don't follow a subject as closely as we do. everybody out there, hunters, especially, even the police officers who think th
here's a question about the nra. the nra becomes this behemoth in individuals. i wonder how much that helps the nra themselves. if almost everybody is complicit in saying the nra wants you no know they're powerful. is there a self-fulfilling prophesy about the power of the nra? >> well, in my opinion, there is. if you actually look at the courts across this country where you have a number of lawyers that take pro bono, going into court, fighting things that are nra, going in on local...
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the nra is breaking silence today and will hold a major news conference in downtown d.c. more bill press up after the break. stay with us. when alea was born i definitely was not prepared. i just asked myself, "am i doing all that i can, am i doing the best that i can for her?" my whole family was so thrilled and so excited. it was just the start of a wonderful journey. i feel lucky every single day that i have my parents, i have my grandparents and that alea has grandparents and great-grandparents. sometimes they'll joke around and they'll say, " how's our baby, how's our baby?" and she's almost like this collective family baby. the fact that all of these generations can live together happily and get to know each other and learn from each other is really incredible. my mom was diagnosed with type-1 diabetes when she was 15. when she was first diagnosed they didn't even have any blood sugar monitor. people really didn't know what the future would hold for her but now, today, there are so many resources available to her. she has all these technological devices to help her
the nra is breaking silence today and will hold a major news conference in downtown d.c. more bill press up after the break. stay with us. when alea was born i definitely was not prepared. i just asked myself, "am i doing all that i can, am i doing the best that i can for her?" my whole family was so thrilled and so excited. it was just the start of a wonderful journey. i feel lucky every single day that i have my parents, i have my grandparents and that alea has grandparents and...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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what the nra says is we've been training people in firearm safety for years. we are willing to help train armed security people if the school districts can come up with the money. they've trained about 10,000 of these people already, so there are other organizations. >> pete williams, thank you, sir. good to see you. >> i want to bring in now david winston, advisor to speaker john boehner, gop stat gist. it's good to is have you here. >> the assault ban does it get before and it won't work in the future. >> we hear that and we know the position of the nra. is any logical conversation about trying to move forward on legislation kind of doomed out of the gate? >> if we actually allow ours to think that even the suggestion of the nra about arming guards in schools is something to be taken seriously. i hear pete williams talking about it as if it's even something that could be thinkable. look, just this morning you are reporting these firefighters getting shot. are we going to arm every fire station, every crew that goes out? are they going to have armed guards fo
what the nra says is we've been training people in firearm safety for years. we are willing to help train armed security people if the school districts can come up with the money. they've trained about 10,000 of these people already, so there are other organizations. >> pete williams, thank you, sir. good to see you. >> i want to bring in now david winston, advisor to speaker john boehner, gop stat gist. it's good to is have you here. >> the assault ban does it get before and...
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we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> for 30 minutes lapierre went on a tread that was steadfast, unyielded and trying to blame violence on the insane monster that is pop late our society. but it turned into a glimpse inside the mind of the man who makes the nra, the lobbying arm of the firearms industry, tick. it was easily the most riveting, chilling and revealing
we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to...
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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everyone, including nra members, there was a recent poll by frank luntz which said 74% of nra members believe everyone should have a background check. >> why is that not the case, governor? why does that not exist? >> because the nra has created an illusion that they are going to beat you if they are against you, and i sit here as an ex-governor of the second largest nra membership state in the union, pennsylvania. three times i ran for statewide office. i won by 10 points, 12 points and 21 points, and the nra opposed me each and every time. they are a paper tiger, and it's time for men and women in congress to have the guts to stand up for our kids and for our people. >> so you think michael bloomberg, mayor bloomberg was right this morning, when he said that the organization's power has been overstated dramatically. >> well, i wouldn't be here. this is the second largest nra state in the union, pennsylvania, and i won statewide three times by virtual landslides. the nra was dead set against me because of the work i had done as mayor on gun control, and i won three times overwhelming
everyone, including nra members, there was a recent poll by frank luntz which said 74% of nra members believe everyone should have a background check. >> why is that not the case, governor? why does that not exist? >> because the nra has created an illusion that they are going to beat you if they are against you, and i sit here as an ex-governor of the second largest nra membership state in the union, pennsylvania. three times i ran for statewide office. i won by 10 points, 12...
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. >> i had an nra rating of "a." you know, enough is enough. i'm the father of three daughters, this weekend, they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? >> the republicans are going to have to figure out. i mean, do they wapnt to be the party and this is what it's going to boil down to. this is the world they live in. do they want to be seen two years from now, four years from now, as the party of glocks. >> today, in "daily news." 9 title of "blood on your hands." when you hear joe manchin and joe scarborough talking about the party of glocks. are you worried, we need to bring up violent video games and hollywood as well. is the reinterpretation, the modern day and that people have access to assault weapons? >> you know what is also disturbing, thomas, people s, d republicans -- here we have a town that was controlled in by democrats, the white house for two years. and nothing took place. for the partisans in our country to already start injecting politics in here, that saddens me further. now, we have to remember connecticut has the fi
. >> i had an nra rating of "a." you know, enough is enough. i'm the father of three daughters, this weekend, they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? >> the republicans are going to have to figure out. i mean, do they wapnt to be the party and this is what it's going to boil down to. this is the world they live in. do they want to be seen two years from now, four years from now, as the party of glocks. >> today, in "daily news." 9 title of...
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i am the nra, okay? i am the nra. and my daddy was nra, and my granddaddy was the nra, and it's about my right to have a shotgun in my house, in the back of my truck, to go hunting, to protect my family, to let anybody know if they come to my castle, they're not going to leave in the middle of the night, if they break into my house, i'm going to take my gun and i'm going to kill them. and that's my right. it ain't got anything to do with assault weapons or these magazine clips that allow you to spray down 20 young children or people in malls or people in movie theaters. that is not the nra of my friends and church members in northwest florida. that is not the nra that they know. it is not the nra of survivalists or people who believe the federal government is coming to kick down their door and, you know, and seize all their property. >> you heard my father on the set yesterday after a day of hunting who said yeah, fine. give me a deep psychological examination, whatever. i don't need an assault weapon. it's not so har
i am the nra, okay? i am the nra. and my daddy was nra, and my granddaddy was the nra, and it's about my right to have a shotgun in my house, in the back of my truck, to go hunting, to protect my family, to let anybody know if they come to my castle, they're not going to leave in the middle of the night, if they break into my house, i'm going to take my gun and i'm going to kill them. and that's my right. it ain't got anything to do with assault weapons or these magazine clips that allow you to...
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i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why reason earth would we make it easier for them? >> no perfect answers for this and probably continue to debate this in the new year. my thanks to you all three. lynn, keith and alice, i appreciate all of your time. >> thank you. >>> next, a not so merry cliff-mas for retailers or wall street. how the stalled negotiations are already impacting this economy. >>> and a big question to you, are you optimistic that congress can reach a post-christmas fiscal cliff deal? tweet me. find me on facebook. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen
i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why...
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for now we wan >>> this morning on "first look", the head of the nra fires back at critics explaining why he wants to talk about gun violence in school with more guns. >>> retailers prepare for the last holiday hurrah as time tux away for shopping procrastinators. >>> plus, a u.s. senator arrested on dui charges. the world's most expensive christmas dinner. and "the hobbit" holds on. very good morning to you, i'm veronica de la cruz. critics are taking aim at its controversial plan to put armed guards in schools. the head of the powerful group is sticking to its guns on the explosive issue. one congress won't be able to do anything about until sometime next month. danielle leigh joins us. >> as the gun debate heats up, we're talking about uncertainty. across the country people are responding. some spending less this holiday season as the fiscal cliff nears, others buying guns as that debate intensifies. fresh off the demand for armed guards in every school, wayne lapierre remained defiant in his one and only interview with david gregory. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and
for now we wan >>> this morning on "first look", the head of the nra fires back at critics explaining why he wants to talk about gun violence in school with more guns. >>> retailers prepare for the last holiday hurrah as time tux away for shopping procrastinators. >>> plus, a u.s. senator arrested on dui charges. the world's most expensive christmas dinner. and "the hobbit" holds on. very good morning to you, i'm veronica de la cruz. critics are...
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do you think the nra's solution of arming these schools would be helpful? >> well, i don't think you could do it, suzanne. i think as a practical matter it's just not doable. first of all, you have 100,000 schools in this country. here where i am at virginia tech i'm 100 yards from where my other daughter was when the first shooting happened five and a half years ago and it was right down the hall and her dorm was where the first two people were killed so i look around this campus and there's probably 50 buildings. so will we put 50 police officers, one in each building and is that enough? we have 100,000 institutions and multiply that by the number of buildings if you're talking high schools, you've got kids outside on the football practice thing or the tennis courts or the baseball diamond or the gymnasium. you have how many doors on a good-sized high school, would you be able to guard every door because they can certainly wait while someone comes out one of the other doors and go in. >> another thing with that is if you put an armed guard in an elementar
do you think the nra's solution of arming these schools would be helpful? >> well, i don't think you could do it, suzanne. i think as a practical matter it's just not doable. first of all, you have 100,000 schools in this country. here where i am at virginia tech i'm 100 yards from where my other daughter was when the first shooting happened five and a half years ago and it was right down the hall and her dorm was where the first two people were killed so i look around this campus and...
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the nra makes it seem like -- they fearmonger toward that idea but i think we need to not be offensive to those who have been killed and will be in the future by gun violence that can be -- and the nra leadership battles against even the most simple common sensical responses to this massive problem. >> and the white house certainly going to push. the president is going to talk about guns in his state of the union address next month. and my piece lays out as he does that, he can call for certain gun safety things. there's a lot that polls well, a lot that could arguably help deal with various problems. but the white house knows based on the polling that the president's going to have to talk about it as part of a balanced approach and cliche again today. and that he's going to have to explain in it a way that it doesn't seem like he's tramibling on the 2nd amendment. >> yeah. i actually agree with that, james. i think go ahead with gun control, go ahead with the things that make sense but in a way that's respectful. kudos for number two on the list, only use the word rape in condemnation
the nra makes it seem like -- they fearmonger toward that idea but i think we need to not be offensive to those who have been killed and will be in the future by gun violence that can be -- and the nra leadership battles against even the most simple common sensical responses to this massive problem. >> and the white house certainly going to push. the president is going to talk about guns in his state of the union address next month. and my piece lays out as he does that, he can call for...
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the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. nra, end assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claims the civilian automatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most popular calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they are talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as those teachers
the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. nra, end assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that...
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again and the nra scheduled a news conference on friday. shawn? >> thank you, john. >>> tonight, we stand fewer than two weeks from the fiscal cliff. while both sides are talking, there is no deal. the leaders in washington are trying to come up with a backup plan to avoid a financial fallout on new year's and tom fitzgerald has more. >> reporter: tonight, the big question is can they at least pass something they seem to agree on? neither side wants the sequestration cuts due to start on new year's. the one think this they agree on, they don't want tax rates to rise on the middle class. it seemed clear while the talks drag o we appear no closer to a deal. with just 13 days left until the fiscal cliff hits, democrats and republicans are trying to outmaneuver each other. >> at the same time, we'll continue to talk with the president. >> reporter: house speaker jo boehner said that he wants taxes to rhizome on people making more than $1 million said the president has to cut more spending. >> the white house offered yesterday was essentially $1
again and the nra scheduled a news conference on friday. shawn? >> thank you, john. >>> tonight, we stand fewer than two weeks from the fiscal cliff. while both sides are talking, there is no deal. the leaders in washington are trying to come up with a backup plan to avoid a financial fallout on new year's and tom fitzgerald has more. >> reporter: tonight, the big question is can they at least pass something they seem to agree on? neither side wants the sequestration cuts...
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that's not what the nra is cog. they want almost everybody to be able to carry almost everywhere and the disasters ensuing from that approach are adding up. they end up in things like connecticut. >> mark and steve, joining us by phone, thanks to both of you, appreciate your time. our third story out front, a blizzard that hammered the midwest may be winding down, but it is causing travel holiday headaches to ramp up. alexandria steele has more on just how rough travel could get this evening and over the weekend. >> good evening, soledad. it has been incredibly tough travel and tonight is no exception. are you looking at the 6,000 aircraft that are currently in the sky above us trying to get home for the holidays. certainly a lot better than the over 500 airport delays and cancelations and aircraft cancelations we had yesterday. so things are moving tonight although we have had delays, especially in the northeast. la guardia and newark and boston have been two of the big areas that we have seen delays between one an
that's not what the nra is cog. they want almost everybody to be able to carry almost everywhere and the disasters ensuing from that approach are adding up. they end up in things like connecticut. >> mark and steve, joining us by phone, thanks to both of you, appreciate your time. our third story out front, a blizzard that hammered the midwest may be winding down, but it is causing travel holiday headaches to ramp up. alexandria steele has more on just how rough travel could get this...
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host: have you ever been a member of the nra? caller: no, never been a member of the nra. host: from our facebook page, jess says -- jeff says -- nicholas, what kind of gun do you have? caller: i have two fire armas, an ak-47, and an ar-15 bought as recently as yesterday. host: why did you buy one yesterday? caller: i have wanted one for some time but just didn't. in anticipation of a ban, i made the decision to go out and purchase one. that being said, i want to say i am in favor of huge increases in gun-control law. i think one of the things that is most disturbing to me is to hear fear mongering on both sides of the conversation whether it is coming from anti- gun or pro-gun individuals. what i hear from the pro-gun individuals is that the way to combat crime is to throw more guns at it. i could not possibly disagree more. i think there are some people who should not have guns, definitely should not have guns, this individual involved in the sandy hook tragedy. there are people who should not have the right to. i am in favor of have the background checks. whether the mo
host: have you ever been a member of the nra? caller: no, never been a member of the nra. host: from our facebook page, jess says -- jeff says -- nicholas, what kind of gun do you have? caller: i have two fire armas, an ak-47, and an ar-15 bought as recently as yesterday. host: why did you buy one yesterday? caller: i have wanted one for some time but just didn't. in anticipation of a ban, i made the decision to go out and purchase one. that being said, i want to say i am in favor of huge...
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ó >>> more on the fallout from the nra's comments. among the most controversial was the nra statement that violent video games, the media, movie and music are what is causing our kids to kill. >> the only way, the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> the nra says there is a simple solution to stop the gun violence: put armed guards in our nation's schools. but not everyone agrees with that and, tonight, people are still responding to that suggestion. >> we are breaking down their opinions. fox's rick leventhal has some numbers that might surprise you. >> reporter: after a week of silence, the national rifle association held a press conference friday, sparking even more debate. the nra has four million members, a strong pro gun organization with a power to vote and lobby for or against districter gun laws. after the sandy hook shooting when a trouble 20-year-old fired his wa
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what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation. the conversation is around specific measures like criminal background checks on all gun sales. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales and our message today is really to them, to the nra members, you know, like president obama said, nra members are mothers and fathers, too, and we all grieve over this terrible tragedy and we all grieve over the 32 to 34 murders that happen every single day in our country, and there are things we can do about it and that's what we hope the nra is going to focus on as well, but it'
what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation....
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we've got to get to the real problem, the real causes, and that's what the nra is trying to do. >>> and thousands of americans raise their voices this holiday >>> and thousands of americans raise their voices this holiday season. captioning funded by cbs >>> this is the "cbs morning news" on december 24, 2012. >>> good morning. we begin with a major storm that promises a white but treacherous christmas for parts of the midwest and northeast. the storm is expected to get stronger as it heads east. winter weather alerts and advisories are posted from texas to indiana. all this during one of the busiest travel days of the year. jeff at our miami station has more. >> well, this is shaping up to be a very stormy week across the united states. now, the good news is during the day today at least it should be fairly quiet. there'll be a small storm in the eastern part of the country producing a little light rain to the south and snow to north. the bigger issue is what happens on christmas day. across the southeast, we could be talking about a widespread severe weather outbreak and maybe numerou
we've got to get to the real problem, the real causes, and that's what the nra is trying to do. >>> and thousands of americans raise their voices this holiday >>> and thousands of americans raise their voices this holiday season. captioning funded by cbs >>> this is the "cbs morning news" on december 24, 2012. >>> good morning. we begin with a major storm that promises a white but treacherous christmas for parts of the midwest and northeast. the...
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that's not what the nra is cog. they want almost everybody to be able to carry almost anywhere and the disasters are adding up. they end up in things like connecticut. >> mark and steve, joining us by phone, thanks to both of you, appreciate your time. >>> still "outfront," extreme weather causing huge delays as we head into the busiest travel weekend of the year. we'll tell you what that's going to mean for holiday travel plans. >>> one week after the deadly mass shooting at sandy hook, communities across this country are honoring the victims. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help
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i as a nra member believe enough is enough. we all need to come to the table and end up with appropriate restrictions. t oo the big question is will there be the votes? for 20-years this issue does nothing but lose an election. they change their mind on this there will be a seat change. you are seeing something different than what happened in the wake of aurora and indiana. close to 50 percent of people think there should be more restrictions on guns. past tragedies haven't made that change in public opinion. >> charles? >> i understand this reflects a move to do this. in principal i am not opposed to it. we a decade with an assault weapons ban in the mid 90s lasted for a decade. if you look at the studies had no aappreciateable influence on gun violence. there are three elements it's the shooter, it's the web and the environment. the main thing you want to look at is the weapon. there are other ways of looking at this. if you look at the shooter himself the mental health issue the fact that you cannot get a commitment on these
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the nra is soon going to start to push back. you are going to see a major news conference with the president of the organization wane lap peer and others on friday in washington. >> let me stop threw. that's ridiculous. nobody is going to see it? >> nobody is working on friday. it's a friday before christmas. not going to get any play. nobody is going to be watching over the weekend. why not. >> that's just one part of it, bill. you are going to see the full weight of this organization and four million members brought to baier in the legislative battles that carl cammeron just discussing. >> they say they are unwilling to compromise. >> i think you will find, bill, that the nra is not going to let an assault weapons ban being reinstated without a fight and draw a particular red line around senator feinstein's proposal to limit the amount of ammunition be loaded into semiautomatic weapons. >> bill: that will be interesting. >> one other thing real quick, biffle is that the manipulate membership nra has surged since newtown accord
the nra is soon going to start to push back. you are going to see a major news conference with the president of the organization wane lap peer and others on friday in washington. >> let me stop threw. that's ridiculous. nobody is going to see it? >> nobody is working on friday. it's a friday before christmas. not going to get any play. nobody is going to be watching over the weekend. why not. >> that's just one part of it, bill. you are going to see the full weight of this...
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one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get rid of the guns because they wanted them out of their house. >> people have every right to either own or not own a gun. that's what a free country is about. >> let's move on to the polls that i was talking about earlier. there are some who are as conservative as you can get who say the nra not listening to your own members. frank says a republican pollster had to say on cbs. >> i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the 2nd amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not e
one week since the nra response. in that time, americans seem more confused than ever about how to react to gun violence. on one hand people are buying up guns like mad. in los angeles, we have seen some of the biggest gun buyback in history. people waited two hours in line to get rid of their guns. why do you think that is? why the dichotomy in the country? >> i wasn't in los angeles for the buyback, but if you offer me a $100 for a $50 i'll sell it to y you. >> some wanted to get...
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the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually endorsed by the nra. so clearly, as congressman john yarmouth told us yesterday on ""full-court press"" politicians no longer have to be afraid of standing up against the nra and for sensible gun control. my final comment for today folks. tomorrow's show, we'll be joined in studio by congresswoman rosa delaro and by senator john eudal. go out and have a great one. we will see you back here tomorrow morning. >> this is "the bill press show." deep. like me. [ male announcer ] head & shoulders deep clean for men. ♪ ♪
the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually...
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the nra -- we didn't elect them. you guys didn't sign a pledge to the nra. the republicans -- why are they signing a pledge to a person like grover norquist. i think you are absolutely right when you look at the polling and what the american people want that would be the important thing to realize is that the nra is not all howerful right? >> yeah, and i think the domination of the republican party, the moderates are extinct in that party, anybody that attempts to draw some consensus or compromise is not tolerated, and that extreme branch of the party who basically has been running the show i think their brand is worn-out and it's worn-out because now you have a cumulative effect of lack of policies, lack of oversight, lack of gun control, the threat of the -- we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you make all of these draconian cuts, congress unfortunately made the deal, and here we find ourselves at this cliff again. that's what is really at stake here? >> stephanie: but let's talk about that separately in a moment, but is that going to happen w
the nra -- we didn't elect them. you guys didn't sign a pledge to the nra. the republicans -- why are they signing a pledge to a person like grover norquist. i think you are absolutely right when you look at the polling and what the american people want that would be the important thing to realize is that the nra is not all howerful right? >> yeah, and i think the domination of the republican party, the moderates are extinct in that party, anybody that attempts to draw some consensus or...